Curse

Guildmaster Cain · Nov 07, 2006, 10:36 AM // 10:36

With the coming of Nightfall, a lot of loose ends are finally tied. The storyline of Nightfall isnt solely worked out in the primary quests, but also a lot of special quests are giving more insight on the Lore of Guildwars.

To summarize this all and keep track of it, I have created this thread. I will only post the official ingame transcripts, which I hope will give more insight.

I hope others will donate their share of the knowledge they have uncovered during their quests throughout the world of Guildwars. Things that I am interested in are the transcripts from the "Master-quests"

The 6 Gods
They are all siblings (brothers and sisters):

Dhuum and Menzies are aiding Abaddon:
Keeper Zeliss (Gates of Torment): "We are the keepers of Abaddon. Our Task has been complicated of late by the aid the dark god has received from the fallen god, Dhuum, as well as Balthazar's half brother Menzies"

All the gods had predecessors:

New Godess of Secrets
Talking to Avatar of Kormir after killing Abaddon: "Ahai, my friends. Life brings us many twists. My new station has not blinded me. My eyes have adjusted to the darkness between the stars. I sense celestial movement beyond comprehension...
Without you, none of this would be possible. You will forever be my chosen ones. If you have need of me, come to Chantry of Secrets and kneel before my statue. I will always listen."

Talking to Seer of Truth in the Chantry of Secrets: "Kormir knows the truths behind many mysteries. Do you dedicate this offering to one in particular?"

The new phrase has become: "Praise the six gods", instead of the five.

Text from here statue

Charr and their Titan 'Gods'

The FortuneTeller and Shiro
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10076452

NinjaKai · Nov 07, 2006, 10:57 AM // 10:57

So now there are 6 gods not 5. Wonder if they'll update the HoH with here statue. Though that was one hell of a career change. First a Spearmarshel, demon food and now a goddess.

Guildmaster Cain · Nov 07, 2006, 12:39 PM // 12:39

Hmm I dont think Kormir ever became a spirit, since she was one of the lucky ones that was sentenced by the gods to the Torment Realm, because she was tainted by Abaddon. That plus the fact that she never attains the translucent state which spirits seem to posess.

Giga Strike · Nov 08, 2006, 01:01 AM // 01:01

there are still 5 true gods (Balthazar, Dwayna, Grenth, Melandru, and Lyssa)and 4 demi-gods.

kormir is the newest i guess and the only demi-god who isnt suppressed.

Captain Arne Is PRO · Nov 08, 2006, 01:29 AM // 01:29

When Abaddon is slain, Kormir takes his power.
She replaces him as a 'demi-god.'

AnkurP992 · Nov 08, 2006, 02:20 AM // 02:20

ugly goddess cough cough*

Guildmaster Cain · Nov 08, 2006, 02:11 PM // 14:11

As you can read the scripture on Kormirs Statue, Abaddon is adressed as 'dark god', which clearly states, he has the same rank as the other 5 gods, a.k.a not a demi-god.

It is uncertain wether Kormir takes the same path as the other 5 gods, and performs an exodus, or she remains closer to the planet and its dwellers.

Giga Strike · Nov 08, 2006, 02:51 PM // 14:51

so...abaddon is dead, or just bound with no power whatsoever?

Talic · Nov 08, 2006, 10:41 PM // 22:41

He's not gone, just his "will is broken", probobly locked away in the depths of knowledge or something.

During the cenimatic after beating abaddon, when "you" first asks kormir if she's abaddon, she says "yes, no, and much more. his will is broken... (more stuff)"

So I dont think he's really "dead", just... broken, and his power and knowledge is kormirs now.

Guildmaster Cain · Nov 09, 2006, 11:11 AM // 11:11

Maybe Abaddon is 'broken' like Grenth did to Dhuum, when he became god of Death. This means stripping his 'godness' away from him, but he will still remain a immortal being, though lesser then a god. Dhuum apparently also survived Grenth taking over his power.
Gotta finish game again and look carefull at endcine transcripts...

lightblade · Nov 09, 2006, 05:28 PM // 17:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by AnkurP992

ugly goddess cough cough*

Oh...she's much better looking than melandru

Guildmaster Cain · Nov 12, 2006, 11:35 AM // 11:35

Facts about how the Charr see the Titans as their gods, see above.

Clord · Nov 12, 2006, 01:05 PM // 13:05

That male warrior say in Chantry of Secrets after you finish final mission that "Praise the six gods".

Audithus · Nov 13, 2006, 06:27 PM // 18:27

abbadon was a god not a demi-god look at the gates of madness there were 6 god statues one being abbadon, so since Kormir took his place and she is now considered the 6th god. She is not a demi-god either.

Ic Zero · Nov 13, 2006, 07:11 PM // 19:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by lightblade

Oh...she's much better looking than melandru

talk about ugly....look at lyssa, and shes meant to be the god of beauty

AydenV2 · Nov 13, 2006, 07:53 PM // 19:53

I have an INCREADIBLY strong urge that the charr and their gods will be the base of CH4, most likely a civil war between the charr, with us aiding one side. Sorry, De-railed topic. :/

FireFox · Nov 14, 2006, 02:06 AM // 02:06

Kit Engel · Nov 14, 2006, 05:47 AM // 05:47

My Dervish demands that she gets Avatar of Kormir, since she's beaten the game and there's six gods now!

The concept of the portfolio of a god transferring to a new person probably makes sense to anyone who's played Nobilis before. Kormir's the new god of secrets/truth. She influences what happens to that domain from here on out, and she becomes its representation. Abaddon has no more say in it insofar as he was defined by his portfolio in the first place.

TechnoSword · Nov 14, 2006, 07:39 AM // 07:39

Im guessing during the great december update that kormir will finally be added, and maybe the statue will lead on to something good...

Guildmaster Cain · Nov 14, 2006, 10:40 AM // 10:40

nice one firefox... could you post the whole Apostate quest sequence?

I also found a post on the FortuneTeller and found the proof that the gods are siblings (brothers and sisters, if my english is correct).